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Karmapa is KarmapaVisit the linked site in this line and scroll down to see Chatral Urgyen Rinpoche (b. 1913,) of P'harping, Nepal. Almost 100 years old, he is a yogi who has seen and understood many things, and it is widely known that he spoke openly to his own (Nyingmapa) communities saying that it would be not be correct to adopt a "wait-and-see" attitude since there was no doubt as to the fact of Urgyen Thrinley Dorje's incarnation as 17th Gyalwa Karmapa. Visit Ocean of Merit to see the remarkable physical resemblance between the 16th Karmapa as a youth, and the 17th Karmapa. (Chinese text.)Signs and PortentsPratibha Chauhan, in India's The Tribune reported: "On the day of his birth on June 26, 1985, the villagers reported
hearing the sound of conch shells for an hour, followed by another musical
sound, the source of which could not be found. Perhaps, the most dramatic
of the many signs were the three suns, which shone in the sky. Seen by all
present, they were of the same size and appeared in a row. Over the middle
sun, arched a rainbow each end of which dissolved suns on the sides.
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